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Slow Walk September 11, 2004 bi WIB talk FAQ

What is biWIBtalk?
How do I subscribe / unsubscribe?
How do I post a message?
Why do my messages bounce?
What happens when I reply to a message?
How do I make sure everyone sees my reply?

 

What is biWIBtalk?

BI WIB Talk [biWIBtalk] is an email-based discussion group. Everyone who subscribes can post messages to the list that are received by all subscribers. The list is not moderated and there are no rules about the content of messages (at this time), but they naturally tend to be about the group's shared interest in peace and human rights.

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How do I subscribe / unsubscribe?

The easy way to subscribe or unsubscribe is to send a message to the list administrator requesting what you want. It won't happen immediately but it will happen. In the body of your message mention biWIBtalk along with the word subscribe or unsubscribe. Send to jg00@nilbs.com

... OR ...

To subscribe to the biWIBtalk discussion list, click on the following link

      http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/biwibtalk

While there you will enter your email address and choose a password. After signing up you will receive a confirming email which you must respond to before your list membership is activated.

If you have trouble with the on-line process, you can send an email to jg00@nilbs.com saying you want to join biWIBtalk. The list administrator will add your subscription manually, (using the email address you send from). You will be given a subscriber password automatically. You will receive a confirming email.

To unsubscribe from the biWIBtalk discussion list, click on the link that appears on your original welcome message from the list, or the link that appears on each monthly subscriber reminder messages, toward the bottom. That is the quickest and easiest method if you have one of those old messages handy. Otherwise, send your unsubscribe request via email by clicking here (leave the message body blank, just send). You will receive a message in response to this request; you must reply to that message to complete the process.

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How do I post a message?

To post a message you must first become a subscriber.

Post a message to the biWIBtalk discussion list by sending a regular email message to biWIBtalk@biwib.org   (Add this address to your address book like a normal entry.)

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Why do my messages bounce?

Too often messages are sent that never get distributed to the subscriber list. There are two common causes.

(1) Message sent to the wrong address. Over half of all unsuccessful messages are simply not sent to the right place. The same holds true for personal email. With personal email there seems to be a natural instinct to check the accuracy of the recipients email address when a message fails. Curiously, this instinct gets lost when dealing with an impersonal list server like biWIBtalk. The correct address for posting to the biWIBtalk list is biWIBtalk@biwib.org

(2) biWIBtalk email address is in BCC. biWIBtalk is configured to reject implicit addressing. Implicit addressing is done in several different ways and is practiced widely by spammers. Ordinary netizens employ implicit addressing when they use BCC (blind carbon copy). biWIBtalk will only accept messages when the biWIBtalk address appears in the TO or CC field. (Note well: it is perfectly alright for a message to have BCC recipeints as long as biWIBtalk is not one of them.)

The reason for not allowing BCC is sound and sensible, though you don't have to understand it to address your messages properly.

Why isn't BCC allowed? After all the harping from all quarters to encourage you to use BCC when sending your bulk email, why would biWIBtalk reject it? The answer is rooted in the difference between biWIBtalk, as a recipient of your message, versus your other recipients. biWIBtalk is a robot; your other recipients, for the most part, are people. biWIBtalk does not care if it's email address is exposed in email messages while people are rightfully concerned. So, the main reason for using BCC (to hide recipient's addresses) does not apply to biWIBtalk.

Those who do a lot of shotgun email compaigns will typically put long lists of email addresses in the BCC: field. This kind of email is usually sent mechanically with little or no concern for each individual on the list. Such an attitude does not go well with a list server that could reproduce a message hundreds or thousands of times. … By demanding the biWIBtalk addresss be in the TO or CC field, the sender is being told to consciously consider the appropriateness of the message for the entire list audience.

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What happens when I reply to a message?

One of the frustrating things about the old Topica service (may it RIP) was the non- standard way it handled replies to messages. When you replied to a message from the Topica list it was automatically broadcast to the entire subscribership. Because of that quirk, chit-chat between two individuals could (inadvertently) end up being broadcast to everyone-- annoying to receive, possibly embarrassing to send.

Typically when you reply to a message from a list server your message is only sent to the one who posted the message. This is the preferred option. It cuts down on unwanted noise. biWIBtalk works this way.

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How do I make sure everyone sees my reply?

You will often want your reply to a message from the list to be read by everyone, not just the individual who sent the message. You do this by pushing the "reply" button of your email program normally, then manually changing the To: address to that of the list-- biwibtalk@biwib.org -- the same address used to post to the list. (Some prefer to do a normal reply but add the list server address as a Cc: This may seem more sensible on the surface, but it only serves to send two copies of the same message to the original message sender-- one directly and one through the list server.)

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